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It
seems that lately the best books I have read are
the ones that just happen to fall in my lap. I
was sent All The Numbers by my colleague, Gilly
Hailparn at Random House. Gilly has the knack
of sending me books that pull at my heart strings.
Emotional and full of drama, these books make
excellent choices for a book club discussion.
This particular novel has a sweet cover depicting
a child and perhaps his mother. Immediately, it
grabbed my attention. Never in my wildest dreams
could I have imagined the intense emotions that
would surface when I read it. All too often we
hear that life is a precious gift. Don’t
waste it! There is no dress rehearsal! You only
get one chance! Carpe Diem! You’ve heard
all these phrases, but have you stepped back and
examined your life to see if you are following
this sage advice? In All The Numbers, Judy quite
eloquently takes the reader on a journey that
punctuates the reality of these well worn phrases.
Like the main character in the story, I, too,
am a mom of two boys. As I voraciously turned
each page, it felt like I was on an emotional
rollercoaster ride. Judy touched upon every emotion
in my body as I sobbed and sniffled through the
pages. I can honestly say that I have NEVER cried
so much while reading a book and I actually wanted
to finish it! This one hooked me. It is well written,
emotionally raw and surprisingly uplifting, which
is a difficult task for an author, especially
a debut author none-the-less, to accomplish so
elegantly. If this is what we can expect from
Judy in every subsequent novel, I definitely want
to read everything she ever writes. Mark my words!
This author is one to watch!
My favorite part of the entire interview process
is getting to know the writer through Email. Judy
is so pleasant and down-to-earth. I truly enjoyed
working with her. As part of this interview, Judy
has generously donated five books to my devoted
readers! As always, check at the end of the column
for a trivia question and the chance to win a
copy for yourself! Good Luck!
Go grab a glass of iced tea and get to know
Judy Merrill Larsen!
Jen: Please tell us a little
bit about your educational and professional background.
Judy: I graduated from The University of Wisconsin
(Madison) with a degree in English and Education
in 1982. I taught high school English until 1987
in Madison. I then was lucky enough to be able
to stay home with my sons when they were little,
and then I returned to the classroom in 1993 after
we had moved to St. Louis. I taught in Florissant
for 7 years (during that time I received a Master’s
Degree from Washington University) and for the
past 5 years I have been at Kirkwood High School.
I am leaving the classroom at the end of this
school year to write full-time, which is a little
scary but also very exciting.
Jen: Have you always dreamed
of becoming an author?
Judy: Yes. I first wrote away to a writing school
(I think from the back of a matchbook or the TV
Guide) when I was 10. My first rejection letter
was from Tiger Beat in about 1971. I had entered
the “Dream Wedding” contest. I think
my dream groom was Bobby Sherman. In high school
I filled notebooks with bad teenage poetry and
took several creative writing classes in college.
Jen: What made you take the
leap and actually write the book?
Judy: I had set a goal for myself that I would
get to Europe and write a novel before I turned
40. So, in the summer of 1999, I took my sons
to Europe for 17 days and then came home and wrote
the first draft of this book. I turned 40 the
following April.
Jen: Take us inside your
mind. Exactly how do you write? Plot first? Characters?
Outline? Summary?
Judy: It’s a combination of characters
and plot. For All the Numbers, I had a moment
sitting on my best friend’s dock at her
lake house where I imagined the jet-ski accident
and then saw the final scene. So, the plot and
the characters were completely intertwined. I
then started writing, letting Ellen, the main
character show me how she got to that final scene.
Jen: From start to finish,
how long did it take for you to complete the novel?
Judy: I wrote the first draft in six weeks. But
that first draft was only one-third of what it
eventually became. I spent the next four summers
filling in the spaces as the characters let me
know them more and more. The very first scene,
the prologue, was actually the last thing I wrote.
When I tell people that it was a five or six-year
process they seem amazed, but it was all truly
a labor of love. It became, in a way, something
that I couldn’t NOT do—when I’m
writing, I find myself thinking about my characters
all the time, so when I actually sit down with
my legal pads to write or revise, it all just
flows out of my pen.
Jen: Whose opinion do you
value most when it comes to critiquing your work?
Judy: Well, the person who has turned out to
be my best critic is my husband. He was first
pretty nervous about saying this needed to be
changed or that needs to be expanded, but I trust
him completely because his comments are so right
on target. He was the one, very early on, who
suggested ways to make the trial scenes more powerful
in All the Numbers. And that made such a difference.
When I am in the middle of a book, I love to sit
and talk with him about it—he listens incredibly
well and often the ideas just start to flow. But
then, of course, I have to get up from whatever
we are doing and jot down what we just talked
about.
Jen: Tell us about the process
you went through to get your book actually published.
Judy: I truly had no idea what was involved when
I first started out. I was introduced to my agent
after attending a summer workshop at The University
of Iowa in 2004. That was absolutely my lucky
break. Once I signed on with her, I did another
revision, and then she submitted it to editors.
In her first round of submissions, I received
the offer from Ballantine, which has been wonderful.
I worked on another round of revisions, and then
it was done.
Jen: I read All The Numbers
in two days because I just had to find out what
happened at the end. How did you come up with
the premise?
Judy: I was sitting on a dock at a lake and it
came to me in a flash. My children were playing
with family friends and a jet skier went past
them. And I looked at them and at my friend and
just began to wonder and imagine the worst. At
the time, I didn’t know it would become
a novel, but everyday that school year, as I drove
to and from school (at that time it was a 40 minute
commute each way) my mind would wander to Ellen
and her sons and what they were going through
and who they were becoming. So, in June, when
I sat down to write, the story was fully in mind.
Friends have asked if it’s hard for me to
go back to the lake house, and it isn’t.
I love the lake house just as Ellen and her sons
do. I almost feel like the book, in a sense, is
a love letter to the lake and the friendships
that have flourished there.
Jen: The lake plays a major
role in the development of the plot. Did you grow
up on a lake or vacation on one?
Judy: As I mentioned before, I am lucky enough
to have a best friend with a lake house, and for
the past 25 years I’ve been able to go there
every summer. It’s one of my favorite places
in the world. It was easy to write about the lake
and Madison because I feel so at home there; I
know it so well.
Jen: Ellen, the main character,
has experienced a failed marriage. Why did you
chose that fate for her rather than giving her
a happy marriage torn apart by a tragedy?
Judy: You know, I never even considered it any
other way. That’s the way Ellen presented
herself to me and so I just wrote her story. Being
a single mom is who she was. That was never in
my power to change. There’s probably a lot
of me in Ellen (I was a single mom with two boys,
I’m an English teacher, I’m not the
greatest housekeeper, I love to cook) but I didn’t
necessarily decide to have a main character like
me. I think that since the idea of the story came
to me when I was with my best friend and our children,
the characters have some similarities. But, whenever
a friend would refer to Ellen as me (or one of
the sons as one of my own sons), I would clarify
that these were invented characters. I had to
have that distance so I could write honestly.
That’s also why I didn’t write it
in first person narration. I needed that distance
between the character’s voice and the author.
Jen: The emotions throughout
the book are so gripping and at times frankly
raw that it felt as if you, too, had experienced
a tragedy in your life. Have you experienced a
similar loss?
Judy: Fortunately, I have not experienced the
loss of a child. But, as a mother, I have had
terrifying moments when I thought I might. And
when I hear of parents whose children have died,
I am in awe that they can continue to function.
So, as I got to know Ellen, I put myself, as much
as could in her shoes. I tried to think, IF I
had to deal with such a loss, what would my reaction
be. I don’t think I’d be noble or
reflective at first—I know I’d be
angry. So I just imagined the very worst. At times
it was really hard to do so—and as Ellen
grieved, so did I.
Jen: At times, it was frustrating
to see the pain Daniel was going through as his
mom stood by oblivious to his suffering. Did you
do a lot of research to accurately portray the
emotions that a child and mother would experience
when faced with a tragedy?
Judy: Again, I think my research was more soul-searching.
I have two sons, and I know there have been times
when I’ve been too caught up in my own worries
or stress or sadness and they’ve slipped
from my focus. I hated when that happened, but
I know that it did. As a high school teacher I’ve
also had the opportunity to observe lots of other
kids, so I’m sure I drew on that at times
as well. I think I also wrote as a way to deal
with my fears. Whenever I start worrying that
I have some new illness or that something has
happened to one of my children, one of the ways
I deal with that is to play it all out in my mind—whom
would I call, then what would I do, then what
and etc. So, since as a mother, my greatest fear
is losing a child, I tried to face this fear through
Ellen
Jen: Ellen’s best friend
played a crucial role in the novel as a supportive
friend and confidant. I think the scene where
they confront each other with their thoughts of
silently hoping it was the other’s child
and not their own who got hit by the Jet Ski was
quite moving. It’s something we all would
think but never would say. Why was this confession
so crucial to the plot and to their friendship?
Judy: I think it’s just totally honest.
And for Ellen and Anna, given what has happened
in their lives, there is no room for anything
but honesty. I think grief and trauma do that—it
strips away the façade and leaves just
truth. Again, I don’t formally outline what
the characters are going to say. Sometimes I feel
like an eavesdropper on their conversations. I
often don’t know what they are going to
say until my pen records it for me.
Jen: Of course, organ donation
is an essential part of this book. Why did you
add this element to the already heartbreaking
death scene of James?
Judy: Over the years, I’ve seen people
on the news who have donated a loved one’s
organs after an accident, and I’m always
struck by how calm they seem. How they sometimes
even say that this helped them in their grief.
And I’ve always thought, wow, they must
be totally in shock or I’m a much less giving
person. While I believe in organ donation and
have told everyone that I want to be a donor when
I die, I just think that for me, in the moment,
especially if it was my child, while I’d
definitely donate the organs, it wouldn’t
make me feel better anytime soon. That’s
just what I believe my honest reaction would be.
Jen: Who is your favorite
character in this book and why?
Judy: Oh, it changes. I most relate to Ellen
because we’re quite a bit alike. My heart
goes out to Daniel though—he’s suffering
and in many ways is the real catalyst for Ellen’s
change. I was also surprised to find out how much
empathy I began to feel for Ben Buchanan (the
driver of the jet-ski) as the book progressed.
And of course I still tear up at times over James.
Jen: Ellen experiences a
self-discovery of sorts. What did she take away
from the tragic accident?
Judy: I think she learns forgiveness. And that
revenge isn’t usually the cure. I hope she
learns that love survives no matter what, even
in death. And that life goes on even when we don’t
think it possibly can. And there can be happiness
again.
Jen: What did you learn from
writing this book?
Judy: I learned to never ever give up. I learned
that you might have to fail a few times before
you taste success. And I learned that I will never
get on a jet ski.
Jen: If the book were made
into a movie, who would you like to see play Ellen?
Judy: Oh, this is one of my favorite games for
my friends and me to play. I’ve often suggested
Helen Hunt because I think she’s wonderful.
Or Tea Leoni or Reese Witherspoon. Maybe Maura
Tierney who plays Abby on ER. I’ve also
joked that I want Dennis Quaid to play Bob Hansen,
but then I’d want to be the kiss-double
for whoever plays Ellen.
Jen: Are you writing a new
book? If so, what can you tell us about it?
Judy: I am working on a second book. It’s
about a woman who teaches cooking classes and
is fed up with bad dates, which she hates almost
as much as she hates shaving her legs. So, she
decides that if she never shaves again she’ll
never have to go out on a date. Of course, as
soon as she makes that decision she meets a great
guy. It’s funny and sweet and full of recipes.
Jen: Any appearances planned
for the Baltimore Area and do you have a web site?
Judy: None yet! I do—www.judymerrilllarsen.com—it
is just getting put together and will feature
my upcoming schedule as well as contests for readers
and other links.
Thank you so much, Judy, for an awesome interview.
I look forward to reading your next book!
The first five readers to Email me at jensjewels@gmail.com
with the correct answer to the following question
will win a copy of the book. Please do not forget
to include your name, phone number, and address!!
Good Luck!
Who is Judy's best critic?
Thanks for reading my column. In September, I
will be interviewing romance writer Tina Leonard!
You won’t want to miss it!
Until next month……Jen |